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-====== VPM ====== +
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-What do you want from a ski lift?  One thing I want is for it to give me the greatest height gain as quickly as possible. ​  So I want to maximize VPM (Vert per Minute). ​  ​Amazingly the excellent folks at [[http://​seilbahntechnik.net]] don't explicitly compute that, so here are the stats for some resorts I've visited recently... +
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-Note that we are definitely in pinch of salt territory here.   The line length and vertical gain figures are pretty solid, but the ride time is generally not very accurate. ​ Lift operators run the lift slower or faster depending on conditions, possibly varying the ride time by a factor of two or more from these estimates. ​  The entries marked [*] have had ride time computed from the line speed, which is again pretty nominal, and for some lifts you can see entries for both the estimated and supplied ride times, which typically differ by about 15%. +
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-Lift type also plays a rôle. ​ Most of the high-VPM lifts are cable cars or trains, which don't run continuously,​ so when you factor in a wait time that's typically the same as the ride time, they can be less attractive (although still pretty good, especially if you know one is coming soon). ​ Similarly, the next class is high-speed gondolas, where wait time (ignoring queueing) is much smaller, but you still need to take your skis off and trudge through some infrastructure. ​ Perhaps add a minute to the ride time for these, discounting vpm by 10-30%. +
-For me, the kings of the mountain are the high-speed detachable chairs (CLDs below). ​  ​There'​s no faff time, and you're skiing the moment you get to the top. +
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-Of course I'm ignoring queueing here — I am assuming that if you've read this far you already ski at off-peak times, in whiteouts, using the singles line, and generally manage queueing efficiently yourself. +
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-The abbreviations for lift type are described in [[vpm:​types]]. +
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-The code is [[vpm:​code|here]]. +
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-===== Jungfrau (Wengen, Grindelwald,​ Mürren) ===== +
-[[vpm:​jungfrau|Full list]] +
-^ Lift ^ Type ^ Vertical Rise ^ Ride Time\\ (min) ^ Vert Per Minute\\ (m/min) ^ Line Speed\\ (m/sec) ^ Line length\\ (m) ^ Link ^ +
-| Wengen-Männlichen [*] | 80-PB |    947 |   3.18 |  297.5 |   10.0 |  1,910 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1430/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Lauterbrunnen - Grütschalp [*] | 100-PB |    686 |   2.51 |  273.0 |    9.5 |  1,432 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​10752/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Allmendhubel [*] | 65-SSB |    258 |   1.15 |  224.8 |    8.0 |    551 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1949/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Mürren-Birg [*] | 75-PB |  1,039 |   4.63 |  224.2 |   10.0 |  2,780 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1722/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Stechelberg-Gimmelwald [*] | 100-PB |    496 |   2.48 |  200.4 |    8.0 |  1,188 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1723/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Wengen-Männlichen | 80-PB |    947 |   5.00 |  189.4 |   10.0 |  1,910 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1430/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Lauterbrunnen - Grütschalp | 100-PB |    686 |   4.00 |  171.4 |    9.5 |  1,432 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​10752/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Mürren-Birg | 75-PB |  1,039 |   6.50 |  159.8 |   10.0 |  2,780 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1722/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grindelwald-Pfingstegg | 35-PB |    360 |   2.88 |  125.2 |    6.0 |  1,035 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8950/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Stechelberg-Gimmelwald | 100-PB |    496 |   4.00 |  124.0 |    8.0 |  1,188 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1723/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Innerwengen | 4-CLD |    233 |   2.03 |  114.8 |    5.0 |    608 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​5341/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Gimmelwald-Mürren [*] | 100-PB |    275 |   2.50 |  110.2 |    8.0 |  1,198 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1721/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Allmendhubel | 65-SSB |    258 |   2.50 |  103.2 |    8.0 |    551 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1949/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Birg-Schilthorn (Piz Gloria) [*] | 100-PB |    293 |   2.94 |   99.5 |   10.0 |  1,766 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1720/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Schiltgrat | 4-CLD |    507 |   5.50 |   92.2 |    4.5 |  1,522 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1286/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Wixi | 6-CLD/B |    495 |   5.38 |   92.0 |    5.0 |  1,614 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​16036/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Riggli | 4-CLD/B |    309 |   3.50 |   88.3 |    5.0 |  1,001 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​11097/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Gummi | 4-CLD |    220 |   2.50 |   88.0 |    5.0 |    688 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1292/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Eigernordwand [*] | 6-CLD/B |    494 |   5.80 |   85.2 |    5.0 |  1,739 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​14103/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grindel | 4-CLD |    290 |   3.55 |   81.7 |    5.0 |  1,065 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1442/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Honegg [*] | 6-CLD/B |    464 |   5.79 |   80.2 |    5.0 |  1,736 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​12322/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Eigernordwand | 6-CLD/B |    494 |   6.50 |   76.0 |    5.0 |  1,739 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​14103/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Honegg | 6-CLD/B |    464 |   6.30 |   73.7 |    5.0 |  1,736 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​12322/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grindel-First | 6-MGD |    213 |   3.00 |   71.0 |    5.0 |    919 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​12399/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Winteregg | 4-CLD/B |    354 |   5.00 |   70.8 |  ? |  1,370 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​14259/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Gimmelwald-Mürren | 100-PB |    275 |   4.00 |   68.8 |    8.0 |  1,198 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1721/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Allmiboden - Allmendhubel | 2-CLF |    121 |   1.77 |   68.4 |    2.8 |    297 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​14258/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Bort-Grindel [*] | 6-MGD |    385 |   5.65 |   68.2 |    5.0 |  1,694 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​12398/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Männlichen | 4-CLD/B |    434 |   6.50 |   66.8 |    5.0 |  1,863 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1298/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Birg-Schilthorn (Piz Gloria) | 100-PB |    293 |   4.50 |   65.1 |   10.0 |  1,766 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1720/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Läger | 4-CLD/B |    446 |   6.90 |   64.6 |    5.0 |  2,083 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1296/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Oberjoch | 4-CLD |    335 |   5.22 |   64.2 |    4.8 |  1,503 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1300/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grindelwald-Oberhaus-Bort [*] | 6-MGD |    505 |   8.71 |   58.0 |    5.0 |  2,614 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1302/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Schilt | 4-CLD/B |    310 |   5.40 |   57.4 |    5.0 |  1,623 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1305/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Gimmeln | 2-SL |    343 |   6.00 |   57.2 |  ? |  1,109 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1460/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Arven | 4-CLD |    224 |   4.00 |   56.0 |  ? |    985 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1287/​datas.htm|link]] | +
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-===== Espace Killy (Tignes, Val d'​Isere) ===== +
-This is the top few... ​See the [[vpm:​espace_killy|Full list]] +
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-^ Lift ^ Type ^ Vertical Rise ^ Ride Time\\ (min) ^ Vert Per Minute\\ (m/min) ^ Line Speed\\ (m/sec) ^ Line length\\ (m) ^ Link ^ +
-| Funival | 220-SSB |    892 |   3.19 |  279.2 |   12.0 |  2,300 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​2837/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| L'​Olympique | 30-BGD |    854 |   4.00 |  213.5 |    7.5 |  2,147 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​2033/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| L'​Olympique [*] | 30-BGD |    854 |   4.77 |  179.0 |    7.5 |  2,147 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​2033/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grande Motte [*] | 115-PB |    422 |   2.73 |  154.4 |   10.0 |  1,640 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4173/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grande Motte Funiculaire | 335-SSB |    932 |   6.50 |  143.4 |   12.0 |  3,484 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​2649/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Laisinant Express | 6-CLD |    727 |   6.17 |  117.8 |    5.0 |  1,851 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​9368/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Tufs [*] | 6-CLD |    562 |   5.08 |  110.7 |    5.3 |  1,599 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​13445/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Solaise Express | 4-CLD/B |    708 |   6.56 |  108.0 |    5.0 |  1,967 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​229/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Manchet Express | 4-CLD |    700 |   6.48 |  108.0 |    5.0 |  1,945 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4169/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Palafour [*] | 6-CLD |    471 |   4.40 |  107.1 |    5.0 |  1,319 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​11296/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Boisses | 8-MGD |    410 |   3.87 |  105.9 |    5.0 |  1,161 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​14936/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Chaudannes | 6-CLD |    388 |   3.97 |   97.7 |    5.0 |  1,191 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​219/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Aéroski | 10-MGD |    603 |   6.19 |   97.5 |    5.0 |  1,856 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1440/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Pyramides | 4-CLD |    410 |   4.25 |   96.5 |    5.0 |  1,284 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​11376/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Palafour | 6-CLD |    471 |   5.00 |   94.2 |    5.0 |  1,319 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​11296/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Tufs | 6-CLD |    562 |   6.00 |   93.7 |    5.3 |  1,599 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​13445/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Loyes Express | 4-CLD |    529 |   5.69 |   93.0 |    4.3 |  1,450 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4186/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Tichots | 6-CLD |    361 |   3.90 |   92.5 |    5.0 |  1,171 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8919/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Les Lanches | 4-CLD/B |    748 |   8.52 |   87.8 |    5.0 |  2,555 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4125/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Bellevarde Express | 4-CLD |    381 |   4.36 |   87.3 |    4.0 |  1,047 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4157/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grande Motte | 115-PB |    422 |   5.00 |   84.4 |   10.0 |  1,640 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4173/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Marmottes Express | 6-CLD |    305 |   3.68 |   82.8 |    5.5 |  1,215 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​13364/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Paquis | 6-CLD |    442 |   5.37 |   82.4 |    5.0 |  1,610 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​220/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Fresse | 6-CLD/B |    480 |   6.16 |   77.9 |    5.0 |  1,849 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​218/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Sache | 6-MGD |    622 |   8.00 |   77.8 |    4.0 |  1,986 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4130/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| 3000 | 1-SL |    173 |   2.39 |   72.3 |    3.0 |    431 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8822/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Grattalu | 6-CLD |    321 |   4.50 |   71.3 |    5.0 |  1,422 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​5352/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| De la Vanoise | 4-CLD/B |    309 |   4.39 |   70.3 |    4.5 |  1,186 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4176/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Tommeuses | 8-CLD |    457 |   6.50 |   70.3 |    4.4 |  1,716 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​2002/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Balme D | 1-SL |    344 |   4.95 |   69.5 |    3.9 |  1,164 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8727/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Balmes G | 1-SL |    344 |   4.95 |   69.5 |    3.9 |  1,164 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8728/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Almes | 1-SL |    194 |   2.83 |   68.6 |    3.5 |    594 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8726/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Semanmille | 1-SL |    132 |   1.99 |   66.3 |    3.5 |    418 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8835/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Merles [*] | 6-CLD |    286 |   4.38 |   65.3 |    5.0 |  1,314 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​5353/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Cascade Express | 4-CLD |    415 |   6.38 |   65.1 |    4.6 |  1,741 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4175/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Chardonnet | 1-SL |    290 |   4.61 |   62.8 |    3.5 |    969 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8730/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| La Daille | 4-MGD |    482 |   7.93 |   60.8 |    3.5 |  1,665 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4258/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| 3500 Nr. 2 | 2-SL |    241 |   4.13 |   58.4 |    3.5 |    867 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8725/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Bollin | 6-CLD/B |    107 |   1.84 |   58.0 |    4.6 |    509 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​217/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Combe Folle | 1-SL |    238 |   4.37 |   54.5 |    3.5 |    917 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8733/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Borsat Express | 4-CLD |    380 |   6.99 |   54.4 |    5.0 |  2,097 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​2298/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Glacier Express | 6-CLD |    324 |   6.00 |   54.0 |    5.0 |  1,780 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​1441/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Double Plan D | 2-SL |    304 |   5.73 |   53.1 |    3.2 |  1,100 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8734/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Double Plan G | 2-SL |    304 |   5.73 |   53.1 |    3.2 |  1,100 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8735/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Madeleine Express | 6-CLD |    167 |   3.19 |   52.4 |    5.0 |    956 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​228/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| 3500 Nr. 1 | 2-SL |    215 |   4.22 |   50.9 |    3.1 |    790 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8724/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Merles | 6-CLD |    286 |   5.90 |   48.5 |    5.0 |  1,314 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​5353/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Leisse | 4-CLF |    263 |   5.75 |   45.7 |    2.3 |    794 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​4124/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Champagny | 2-SL |    196 |   4.29 |   45.7 |    3.2 |    811 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8729/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Rosolin 2 | 2-SL |    168 |   4.69 |   35.8 |    3.2 |    900 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8741/​datas.htm|link]] | +
-| Rosolin 1 | 2-SL |    168 |   5.44 |   30.9 |    3.0 |    980 | [[http://​www.seilbahntechnik.net/​en/​lifts/​8740/​datas.htm|link]] |+